Episode Transcript
[00:00:06] Speaker A: Hello and welcome back to The Day today where we've been double and triple checking our communication platforms to make sure there isn't any crossed wires about what we will and won't be talking about. Joining me, as ever, is Matt Furlis and delighted to say we are joined by podcast debutant Ryan Benson today, the latest person who undoubtedly will beat me in the Pauline Quirk quiz later on today. But let's dive in to the talking point for the weekend's action, where I'm sure we're going to be talking about the Nottingham Forest one Brentford one draw, aren't we? Surely that's all that we've really got to talk about this week.
[00:00:41] Speaker B: If you want me to rant about VAR not giving penalties, then yes, but no, see, either way, I enjoyed you getting into Ryan's head early doors there by saying he'd be the latest pressure straight away on him.
[00:00:55] Speaker C: He knows I can't handle that kind of pressure.
[00:01:00] Speaker A: It's like a best man speech at a wedding, early doors you put in there about how important the best man speech is and you just watch them.
[00:01:06] Speaker B: Crumble first minute crunch in tackle.
Yeah, on that subject, actually, we're talking about red cards today in our main talking point this weekend, a few more, two of them for Liverpool. We've seen 17 now this season in the Premier League. At this stage last season we had five.
So it feels like, along with we've talked about in the past, about obviously more time being played in games, more yellow cards with the new directives.
I mean, the rise in yellow cards means that a lot more players are walking a tightrope in matches early on, I guess, but saying that there have been more straight reds this season than second yellows, so there's been nine straight reds, eight second yellows. You feel like quite a few of those second yellows have been avoidable because the yellow cards have been quite harsh. I remember Tommy asus at Crystal Palace for Arsenal early in the season. Diego Jotas, this weekend, first yellow. I mean, the guy tripped over himself, but Jota got a yellow and then about a minute and a half later he got himself a second yellow.
The last time we reached 17 reds at an earlier date in a Premier League season was back in 2001, two. That was on the 15 September last season, it was reached on the 5 February. Obviously there's a caveat there in the World Cup, took out a big chunk of games in end of November and the majority of December, but still, yeah, to reach 17 red cards on the 5 February and then to do that this season on the 30 September sorry, the 1 October, it was in the Forest game.
Yeah, it's quite a difference. And Liverpool, as we said before, they got two this weekend, curtis Jones and Diego Yotta. They're the first team in history to be given as many as four red cards in their opening seven games of the season. The previous record for the fewest Premier League games in the season to reach four red cards was by Leicester City in 94 95. Of course, you all knew that they had four in their first eight games.
Trying to think of any Leicester players in that era. Jerry Taggart? No. Maybe that was too I'm sorry, matt Elliott's.
[00:03:20] Speaker A: Probably a little too early for that thinking. Steve Walsh.
[00:03:24] Speaker B: Steve Walsh. He would have definitely got one of those Reds naughty defender.
And then, yeah, we crunched an Amber on Saturday.
And looking at the amount of time teams have spent this season with a man or more, less than their opponent, liverpool this season have played 192 minutes and 41 seconds of game time. That's including injury time, added time, et cetera, on both halves. That's more than 122 minutes more than any other side.
And they've done pretty well before Saturday. Actually, even on Saturday did pretty well with fewer men than their opponents. They beat Newcastle coming from behind to win that game with ten men. They drew sorry, they lost on Saturday, obviously, to a last minute own goal or late, late goal. They nearly rescued a point despite having nine men, spurs to struggle to break them down. And earlier the season, they beat Bournemouth with ten men, with McAllister being sent off in the first half, albeit they were leading at the time of that red card. So Liverpool we talked about, ryan wrote about this on Saturday night in the site, are deemed the mentality monsters. And they were really unfortunate on Saturday. I think they probably deserved a point. I thought they played really well, very hard to break down. We all know the big story from that game. Not something that we're probably going to be talking about here, because it's not data led, but that didn't help them either. They would have taken Lee with that goal through who was it? I can't remember. Luis, wasn't it? Yeah, Luis that had the strike and then spurs went up the other end and scored pretty much straight after it. So that would have changed the way the game was played. Liverpool could have taken a halftime lead, et cetera. So you have to feel that Liverpool have been slightly unlucky this season. I think McAllister's red card this season was rescinded, if I remember rightly, as well.
I think they've appealed the Reds this weekend. I think Curtis Jones was being appealed. I can't see that being overturned. Personally, I think it did look a little bit naughty. Obviously, it always looks worse if you slow it down, but I can't see there's enough there to appeal that one, so I don't think they'll get away with that one. And obviously the red card is not rescinded, just the ban. So the red card will stay on the record.
But, yeah, I think red cards this season is definitely one to look out for. It could be yet another metric that we see a record for this season in the Premier League and it's not really what you want to see. You don't want to see games spoiled by red cards, especially first half red cards. We've seen a few. This season completely changes the game. I think the only time you really want to see it is maybe a team like Man City against a team like Sheffield United or Luton, where you feel it could give them a bit of more of a chance to make the game a little bit more equal. But yeah, it's going to be something we've got to look out for this season, I think.
[00:06:34] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, as you say, those numbers are just quite staggering, really, this early and like that liverpool side, as you say, over 100 minutes more than their opponents. They've been down to Ryan. It just felt like obviously you were covering the game for us on the site on Saturday.
The weird thing is though, they do feel like they could of any side in the league right now. They can just compact, they can just sort it out. Yeah, they'd ideally like to play eleven on eleven, but they feel quite comfortable.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: Playing with that man down. Yeah.
[00:07:05] Speaker C: Even when they were down to ten men, even that period, you think you could probably say spurs were on top to a degree, but Liverpool still looked really threatening. The front three were Salah, Diaz and Gakpo were all really lively, all looked really good. I mean there was a couple of passes that Salah played that were just outrageous and yeah, one of those, diaz managed to manage to get his toe to it and prods it just wide and that was a bit unlucky. But I think if you're a Liverpool fan, you come away from that. Obviously the incorrectly disloud goal obviously takes the biscuit a bit, but you come away from that thinking that that was actually quite a positive performance. They were actually pretty good.
[00:08:03] Speaker B: And then.
[00:08:04] Speaker C: Obviously when they were down to nine men, it was kind of a case of just Klopp making a load of changes to just make them solid at the back. And again, to a degree that worked.
Spurs were running out of ideas, to be honest. At the end they were just lumping balls into the box and sort of playing into Liverpool's hands. And yeah, obviously in the end it all went a bit wrong for Joel Matip, but it's a freak incident and I think over the kind of the course of a season, you would hope that you don't get too many more of those. I think there was quite a lot of it was actually quite positive for Liverpool, really.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: As you say, Liverpool can take more positives from that game than negatives. I think the way that they played with nine men, where they played with ten men, was I mean, we were watching the game together. Ryan and there were times when even with nine men, as you say, they were breaking, and they could have easily they were a pass away from scoring a goal. And even then, you couldn't have seen spurs score. It was a goal at nothing towards the end, wasn't it? That it was just unfortunate. Interestingly, only two teams in Premier League history have ever won a Premier League game with nine men. So Liverpool nearly became the Third Man. City against QPR in October 1994 and Leeds against Arsenal in August 2001. Both won the game two one. See, it was one all until late on and Liverpool could have also won that two one.
[00:09:37] Speaker C: So.
[00:09:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I think Liverpool unfortunate. They can take some positives from that game. I still think they are the biggest contenders to challenge City this season. Spurs and Arsenal obviously still up there. It's the latest in a season that both spurs and Arsenal, both spurs and Arsenal are undefeated in a top light season.
It'd be great to have kind of like a four way title battle, but, yeah, I think that by Christmas you probably will see at least one of those drop away. Unfortunately, spurs fans, I think it'll be spurs and Arsenal. Liverpool will fight it out to challenge City and hopefully it starts to become a little bit less of a one horse race with City losing this weekend. So the pressure's on now.
[00:10:26] Speaker A: Well, Matt mentioned about city losing there. We're going to break down the rest of the weekend's Premier League action with the good, the bad and the quirky after this short break.
Welcome back to the day today Wherever you're listening to us, whether that's on Apple podcasts, Spotify, Google or on The Analyst.com, or of course, on many other options we have out there. If you are listening to us on one of those podcast platforms, then please do give us a rating. It's just a click of a button to give us five stars if you want to, and we'll be very grateful if you can do that. And if you've got a little bit more time, just a little bit more time, a one line review would be absolutely lovely and very much appreciated by each and every one of us as well. Right into the break, we talked very briefly about Manchester City's defeat at the weekend. Let's get into the good from the weekend very quickly by talking about wolves. I don't think many people were expecting that. I mean, Pep mentioned in his pre match press conference that all their games are easy. He said with a laugh and a smile. Well, it certainly wasn't on Saturday for them.
[00:11:35] Speaker B: No, not an easy task to beat Man City, but good for the Premier League and good for the rest of the Premier League. They were obviously on a six game winning run to start the season. Two wins away from equaling the all time premier League record best start in a Premier League season, but they fell at this hurdle.
Only seven non Big six will use that. In very inverted commas, teams have beaten Man City since 2021 season, so seven out of 91 attempts of those teams. So it's not easy. I mean, Brentford beat them both home and away last season. The away game was a dead rubber at the end of the season, so doesn't really count.
But it's rare that you see City. I'm not going to say capitulate because they didn't capitulate, but they weren't at their best on Saturday and it was, I mean, Wolves grabbed the opportunity with both hands and Pedroneto in particular, I thought was brilliant. Again, he's going to be that player this season that all of those clubs are going to be linked to in January, trying to sign him. He's a very exciting player. 23 years old, still spent a long time out with a bad injury. I think it was an ACL injury he suffered a few years ago, which has actually worked out to Wolves benefit because they've been able to keep him and people haven't noticed him as much. But I remember just before his injury how good he was in that Wolveside. It was a much stronger Wolves side than what it is now and he was having to play a bit more of a bit part role in that side would come on quite often. But, yeah, this season you got the joint most assists in the Premier League with four. He's among the top creators, 18 chances created.
Also in the top five for Dribbles, completed with 16. He's in the top three for open play, expected assists. He's got 2.6 expected assists. He's one of the former Braga youth crop as well.
A lot of people don't really think about Braga as one of the big three in Portugal alongside Porto, Benfica, Sporting. They are definitely starting to push forward. They've just built this massive new youth academy at Braga and I'd expect to see a lot more young players coming through there now. But we've seen trincal in the last few years. Also played at Wolves, went to Barcelona from Braga, pedro Gonzalez at Sporting, who was also at Wolves for a little bit. I think any Portuguese player has been at Wolves, to be honest. Batinho was at Marseille, david Karma, who's now at Porto, he's part of that crop there. And yeah, they produce some really good players. And Pedro Neto looks like he's going to be one of the best of those.
Just so quick, really skillful. He won't be credited with an assist for the opening goal, but should be for the amount of work he put into it.
Sure, fantasy football players will be angered by that one, but yeah, he's just such a threat. He scored that goal against Luton the other week where he beat a few players, then celebrated the goal with about ten different celebrations in one, which was quite funny to see.
Yeah, just a brilliant player. Really excited to see how he progresses this season and where he goes from here. Probably somewhere like Liverpool.
[00:14:50] Speaker C: Thing I quite like about him is that he's quite an unusual winger in that he's a classic type, usually playing on the left, but he's still kind of quite useful even when he plays on the right. Maybe you don't see that many wingers these days who seem particularly comfortable on both sides, but even though he's obviously very left footed, playing from the right, he's still got the natural ability to kind of get actually around the back and to the actual to the byline, rather than just cutting inside all the time.
[00:15:31] Speaker B: He did that well against United in the opening game as well, didn't he? I remember he was a real threat in that match. And.
[00:15:39] Speaker A: It'S also worth mentioning about Wolves. As much as they were, as good as they were going forward, defensively, they absolutely stifled, erling, Harland. Craig Dawson, like the bits I saw of him, he looked very composed at the back, were there for Harland. His Xg in the game was 0.6, which is actually the third lowest of his Premier League career, where he has played the full 90 minutes of the game. The fourth lowest came the year previously against Wolves as well. It was a zero point 13 on that occasion. But the difference is he found the back of the net on that occasion. So, yeah, City unable to feed the ball into Harland. That created problems for them. And Wolves able to take full advantage, which, again, great counterattacking play. That is becoming a bit of a fall for clubs this season. They're learning you can now hit teams on the counter. One team who've been particularly good at that this season, Aston Villa, who are also our big mention here for the good from this weekend's Premier League action. Six one victory over Brighton.
[00:16:32] Speaker B: Yeah, quickly, just on that Man City thing as well. Don't forget that we're missing Rodri again this weekend. I think they've lost as many games without him as they've had him in the side. That's a lot fewer games without him. He's going to be missing again in that massive game against Arsenal on Sunday. So that's definitely one to look out for. But, yeah, Villa, this weekend, fantastic win against the most chalk and cheese Jekyll and Hyde team in the Premier League. You never really know what you're going to get from Brighton.
I certainly didn't expect a six one and the underlying data in the game suggests it probably wasn't a six one. It should have been a lot closer game, but, yeah, Villa just such a good side. I mean, since this calendar year, we're looking at the numbers this morning that they've won 58 points from 28 games. That's the same as Arsenal, only Man City have won more. And actually, Villa have won the second most games in the Premier League over that period with 18 wins in 29 games. Only Man City 23 wins of one more. The job Unai Henry is doing there is phenomenal, and I think I said this a few weeks ago, I really think that they're going to finish top four this season and qualify for the Champions League. Their incomings this season were really strong. I mean, Diabi, great player from Leverkusen and Ollie Watkins, just a phenomenal player. But Ryan, I know you've written more in depth about Villa. That's their piece going on site today.
So you're probably best placed to talk about how well they're doing this season. But Watkins probably most underrated striker in the Premier League or in the top five European leagues even. Yeah.
[00:18:13] Speaker C: Thing is that with him, obviously it was before last weekend, I think he'd had his chances, came to the most Xg of any player who didn't have a goal. So obviously he was still like a threat, but just it just wasn't happening. And then obviously since then, his last two games, he's got four goals from, I think it's like 1.1 expected goals or something.
You have to say that. I think as you touched on that, the Villa were a little fortunate. So, for example, Watkins's hat trick goal this weekend obviously took a massive deflection, but it was still kind of indicative of their Villa's, kind of like key strengths and how he plays into them.
He's quick, but good on the ball and his off the ball movement is brilliant as well. If you sort of look at the three goals that he scored in, they were quite similar in a way. Well, two of them, anyway, were very similar to each other in terms of them sort of recovering ball in sort of like the middle third of the pitch and then just breaking with just like lightning speed. And obviously his second goal, he basically just did it all himself. But then for the third one, he was the one recovering possession, laying it off to McGinn and then making the clever run around the back and getting the ball, getting the ball again. And then obviously he was sort of helped by the deflection, but some people might say creating his own luck, I guess.
Yeah, I think he's a really interesting player. I think part of what is obviously making him so lively and threatening is that his style of play fits so well into how Emery and how Villa play.
[00:20:09] Speaker A: Yeah, definitely. And also, just on the bare facts of it, first player to score two hat tricks in a single season for Aston Villa since Andy Gray back in the 1970s. So write it now, Ollie Watkins is going to be a future pundit on various channels across the Middle East, probably.
That's how we're going to look at that one. Right, barring the obvious of Stockley Park, who's it been a bad weekend for Matt.
[00:20:36] Speaker B: Manchester United, we'll go with them.
I think that I've been saying it for a long time, I'm not a huge fan of Ericton Hague. I don't think that United are going to get anywhere within this season. It feels like they haven't built on any momentum from last season that they could have built on.
I think that they've been very unlucky with injuries, especially defensively, admittedly.
But I think I went all Mike Bassett a few years ago, a few weeks ago when I was sort of ranting about, this is Manchester United, they shouldn't be losing home games against Crystal Palace, Brighton, et cetera, and it's just not acceptable. These results like, to be on nine points at the stage of a season with a minus four goal difference. That's the worst start to a Premier League season after seven games.
The amount of stick that managers like David Moyes Oligonosolskyo are getting, eric Tan Hag seems to be deflecting quite a lot of that.
The recruitment this summer was pretty poor, in my opinion. I think Anana was a good signing for the way that they want to play, but the goalkeeper, I don't think, was the big issue in that United side.
Hoyland was a panicked signing where they needed a goal scorer. There were probably better options out there, but it felt like he was the only one that was attainable for a price that they were willing to pay. And he had a short kind of spell of doing quite well internationally and his reputation was built up quite quickly because of that. His club record last season wasn't.
Yeah, it just doesn't look very good. I feel like there's probably going to be a change there at United very soon, especially if they don't manage to win tonight against Galatasarai, if they don't manage to win at the weekend against what is a fairly poor Brentford side at the moment, they're not in great form.
Questions need to be asked, really. And that international break coming up is a bad time for Ten Hag if they don't manage to win those games.
It's just really poor. I think Rashford is having one of those seasons at the moment where nothing's going right for him. I think Ten Hag posed that question. Can he be the 40 goal a season man in the summer? Absolutely not, is the answer to that question at the moment.
Yeah. Why are Manchester United at a stage where Anthony Marcia was still at that club where they're signing players like Johnny Evans to play in the first eleven? And that's nothing against Johnny Evans, but United should be miles away from that situation. It feels very much like that era when Arsenal were struggling and they were signing a veteran, Sol Campbell, back just as cover, but would end up playing all the time. It's just a really confusing transfer strategy and feels really short term all the time.
Yeah. I mean, Ryan, you're a United fan, so you have more right than me to be frustrated about everything that's going on there. But maybe you've also got a bit more patience with Ten Hug.
[00:24:07] Speaker C: Yeah, see, I'm going to be happy you just accept sitting here.
I don't know, it's just a bit of an awkward situation.
It's impossible to know whether because they've had so many players injured this season, it's sort of impossible to know whether that's kind of been the key issue or if it's actually just been that Ten Hag hasn't really taken them on a step at all from last season. And I think it's fair to say that because if you look at them now, granted, now they're maybe playing out from the back from the goalkeeper better than they were last season, but now that Martinez has obviously missed a chunk of the season, is going to be out now probably until the new year. So he's their best sort of ball playing defender. So now that's going to completely take that sort of out of the equation and then a bit further forward.
They've had injuries at awkward times and so players like Mason Mountain, like the new signings, generally haven't been able to integrate properly, like in the early weeks of the Mean, at least with, I think Mason Mount. He's obviously played in the last two games and I actually think he's been quite whisper. It know, people don't seem to like.
[00:25:29] Speaker B: Mason Mount, but people just find any excuse to criticize Mason Mount, whatever he does.
[00:25:36] Speaker C: I think he's looked quite good and Sophie and Amarabat again, who's looked decent even playing out of position.
I definitely think that there are reasons for optimism and that it's not all completely like doom and like, if you compare it to the Ralph Ranick era, like the football played then certainly like the last couple of months of season. I mean, that was just an absolute avalanche of nonsense. It was so bad and so just horrible to watch. So they're still better than that? They haven't got to that point yet. But, yeah, you sort of touched on it about that kind of the international break coming up at what, a couple of weeks ago looked like it might actually be coming up at a good time now, all of a sudden, because they lost to palace, looks like it might end up being at the complete wrong time. And then you have to also then remember that they've got, after the international break, they've got City about their second league game after that.
Yeah, that feels like it could be a bit of a yeah, that feels like it could be a bit dangerous for Ten Hag again, if they're still struggling at that point, they've not really picked up many more wins or anything. And then they're going to get absolutely battered, obviously, letting six against City in one game last season, letting seven against Liverpool. They don't have a great record in games like that under him. They get smashed by mean. It wouldn't surprise me if they make a move. It wouldn't surprise me at all.
[00:27:13] Speaker B: There are some top managers still on the market as well, aren't there? Hanzi flick Nagelsman. I don't think either of those are snapped up and not rumored to be linked with anyone else at the moment. Nagelman was linked to the German national team job, but I don't actually think.
[00:27:28] Speaker C: We all know what they're going to do. Come on, it's Steve McLaren in the job.
[00:27:32] Speaker B: Michael Carrick?
[00:27:34] Speaker C: Yeah, it could be. I think Steve Rooney. Steve rookie.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: Yeah. It's just like, I don't know, I've got a lot of friends who are Manchester United fans and I see how frustrated they are with the current situation. And one of them pointed out to me the other day, or posed the question of, like, can you remember the last player that joined Manchester United and actually improved? Yeah, you see players join City, Liverpool, Arsenal and come on leaps and bounds as players and perform at that top level. Even spurs now, you could say players have joined that team and improved, but United it never seems to be. You get all these players who were at the top or consider to be at the top and then don't really do much at United apart from the OD game. There are players on that, on paper, in that squad who are great players. And, I mean, Rafa Varan came out yesterday saying he thinks that United can win the Champions League. On paper, yes, they could. There's players that have been there, done that, but there's just no consistency in that feels from an outsider, it feels like there's quite a toxic environment at United where it just doesn't feel like any of them like each other.
There's been so many eras like that of other club. You've seen Liverpool go through this in the 90s, you've seen Arsenal go through this towards the end of Venger's reign and certain spells after that.
I mean, City before Pep, there were, I'm sure, eras at the top where they were like that as well. United are in that period now and they need to get out of it because it's just going to get worse. Where more clubs getting investment, like Newcastle, it's going to happen that they could end up just being a mid table team like Chelsea are.
[00:29:33] Speaker A: I mean, we talk about investment and obviously today the weekend, it's coming around that Jim Radcliffe is now potentially only looking at a minority stake in the club. Obviously, the Glaziers are still deciding whether they're going to sell up full or whether it's just going to be an investment turn. That can't be helping with the issues as well. But food for thought here. United fans, last time you lost consecutive home league games was against Liverpool and Manchester City in October, November 2021. Those were the last two home league. Games under oli gunnar Solskjaer defeat against Brentford on Saturday might make this a little bit more of an interesting equation.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: At least you can't lose four one to Watford this time, which is the last game of Ollie's reign. The problem with the United takeover is that unlike these clubs like City, Newcastle, et cetera, united Stadium looks like, from the outside, quite a nice polished stadium. The stadium's crumbling now, it needs so much investment and the training ground, stuff like that, they're just falling behind and the longer that goes on, the more you fear for United, who are like, I am not a United fan, but they are a huge club internationally, in this country, et cetera.
They shouldn't be where they are. It's sad to see, from a neutral point of view, their demise.
[00:30:59] Speaker C: Yeah, obviously quite a lot of it, most of it kind of comes back eventually to kind of like the state of the ownership and how that's just been a complete mess for obviously a long, long time. And Alex Ferguson, for the best part, what ever, it was about eight years that he was sort of there while the Glazers owned them, sort of, I guess he was masking over the cracks a bit. And, yeah, since then, I don't think it's like a coincidence that they've been sort of a shadow of their former selves since Ferguson left, for that reason. And, yeah, I think until something is resolved there, I just think United are going to keep on having sort of look like they're sort of on the rise again. They'll have that kind of rising out of nowhere almost and then it all just go to pits again because they don't have the infrastructure, they don't have the club structure there to kind of maintain the new level that teams like City and potentially Newcastle and that are going to be that's going to be the level from now on. And it's going to take a while for United to kind of get back to that.
[00:32:21] Speaker A: I think we deliberately delayed the recording of this podcast until Tuesday because we were thinking we were going to be putting Chelsea in the bad section, but instead it's a nice, long chance to really dive in on United's woes instead. Right then, Matt, time for the highlight of the week, as ever, into the quirky from the weekend's action, of course, setting up the Pauline Quirk quiz. Ryan is under no pressure here whatsoever, but every guest has so far beaten me in the quirk quiz.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: Yeah, this quiz is a little bit tougher, but it is related to Manchester United's defeat on Saturday. So Palace's one nil away. Win at Man United on Saturday saw Roy Hodgson pick up his third Premier League win at Old Trafford as a manager. So my question to you is, can you name the 13 other managers to have won an away game at Manchester United in the Premier League? On more than one occasion, so they have to won two or more Premier League away games against Manchester United. In the Premier League, Roy Hodgson is one of 14. So name the other 13. It's better to be a fairly low scoring penalty shootout, but I believe that it can be done.
[00:33:38] Speaker A: So there you go. There's the question. Have a little bit of a thought in the break about what those answers could be, because, goodness me, I don't think Tony Yboa is going to appear in this one. And we'll be back.
We'll be back with the rest of the Pauline Quirk Quiz after this break.
Hello. Welcome back to The Day To Day, where, of course, it's time for the Pauline Quirk Quiz, the penalty shootout that everybody looks forward to. Unless you were at Hitchin last night watching Scott Mcglysh bang them in, it's fair to say I enjoyed it.
[00:34:20] Speaker B: We won the big one. The Hart Senior Cup. We're in it.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: The real Canaries coming away with the victory, I think some might say. Right, then, Matt, what was the question? Just to remind the audience at home.
[00:34:31] Speaker B: Roy Hodgson, he picked up his third Premier League win at Old Trafford as a manager this weekend. Only 13 other managers have won an away game at Manchester United in the Premier League on more than one occasion. Your job is to name them.
[00:34:47] Speaker A: There we go. It's a good one. There's only a few to name, which is going to make this penalty shoot out even more painful. Ryan, as ever debutant on the podcast, all guests get the choice of whether they want to take first or if they want to take second. Which one would you?
[00:35:02] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. I'll go first.
[00:35:04] Speaker A: Everybody goes first. I don't know why we asked this. I've not heard anybody go.
Right, roll your socks up. It's time to get going. Then Pauline Quirk quiz penalty shout. Play along if you're at home and let us know how you get on afterwards. Matt Ryan. Good luck.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: Take it away. Ryan, your first guess.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: Right, starting the run up. Little Stutter Pep.
[00:35:27] Speaker B: Guardiola Confident Pen Pep Guardiola has won the most Premier League away games at Manchester United. He's won four. So, yes, you have converted your penalty belly. What is your first guess?
[00:35:42] Speaker A: As ever? Did not have the most obvious name down on the list. Did not have it down on the list. I'm going to go for what I think is an obvious answer, but I hope it's not wrong. Jose Mourinho.
[00:35:53] Speaker B: Jose Mourinho has won twice at Manchester United in the Premier League as an away manager. So, yes.
Ryan.
[00:36:06] Speaker C: Let'S go with yeah. Again, I'm hoping this is safe. I feel like it is. Klopp.
[00:36:13] Speaker B: Klopp has also won twice at Old Trafford as an away manager. So, yes, correct.
[00:36:20] Speaker A: I'm going down a similar vein. Rafa benitez fucked.
[00:36:25] Speaker B: Yes. Two away wins at Manchester United's. Liverpool manager.
[00:36:31] Speaker C: For a second, fucked.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: Let's talk about fucked. Right, Ryan Benson, third penalty kick.
[00:36:43] Speaker C: Okay.
Yeah, I think let's keep it in safe range. I think arsene wenger.
[00:36:53] Speaker B: Arsene Wenger won three Premier League away games at Old Trafford. Yes. So three from free from you, Belly. Can you also make it free from free?
[00:37:04] Speaker A: Right, here we go.
[00:37:09] Speaker B: It's never good when you start with that.
[00:37:14] Speaker A: If this is right, I will be drinking a similar amount of his favourite, Sam Allardyce.
[00:37:23] Speaker C: Yeah, that's got to be he has.
[00:37:26] Speaker B: Won twice in the Premier League at Manchester United as an away manager. Correct.
[00:37:30] Speaker A: Pints of wine are on.
[00:37:38] Speaker B: Edge. Chewing his gum, laughing on the sideline.
[00:37:44] Speaker C: Of course, that was that old.
[00:37:46] Speaker B: That was swansea away.
[00:37:48] Speaker A: Chico Flores.
Goodness me.
[00:37:51] Speaker B: Everyone scored their penalties so far. So, yeah, this is getting tougher now. The names are becoming slightly more obscure.
So, yeah, fair play if you continue your streak. Ryan, who's your fourth guess?
[00:38:04] Speaker C: I'll go with Gerard.
[00:38:08] Speaker B: Julier.
Very good guess. Three Premier League away wins at Manchester United.
Only guardiola's won more.
So him, Wenger, Hodgson and Guardiola have won three or more games at Old Trafford as a way manager. The remaining six managers have all won twice away at Manchester United in the Premier League. So it gets a little bit tougher.
No.
[00:38:37] Speaker A: I'm going to hate myself for this.
Alan Pardu.
[00:38:46] Speaker B: Alan Pardu is on my list. But he's only won once away in the Premier League at Manchester United. So, crucial penalty missed there. Ryan can win the quiz with this.
[00:39:00] Speaker C: I do. I go with a flourish or a safe one?
[00:39:03] Speaker A: Flourish.
[00:39:04] Speaker B: Are you going to pennquere it?
[00:39:08] Speaker C: Yeah, let's give it a go. I'm going to go with Steve McLaren.
[00:39:16] Speaker B: Benson steps up and the net bulges. Steve McLaren has won twice as a Premier League away of losing the quiz. Continue.
[00:39:27] Speaker C: Sorry, belly just fine.
[00:39:30] Speaker A: I've got two names. David Moyes or Antonio Conte.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: See, good. Well done. So, yeah, you would have missed that. Anyway.
[00:39:42] Speaker A: The other managers to do it, ryan had another.
[00:39:47] Speaker C: Roberto Mancini.
[00:39:49] Speaker B: Roberto Mancini did do it twice. Yeah. So he was another one. And the other four to do it are Ronald Kuman, Martin O'Neill, Brendan Rogers and Jim Smith. Oh, goodness me. Steve McLaren, christie days. Paolo won shop days. We're talking here.
Yeah. So they are the Magisters Guardiola Hodgson. Julie Venga. Allardice Benitez Mourinho klopp Kuman mancini McLaren. O'Neill Rogers and Jim Smith.
There were 34 names to do it once in the Premier League, including Tony Pulis, Chris Wilder, Sven Goren, Erickson, Frank Clark and Steve Clark. And Chris Coleman. Steve Keane. How can we forget? That was a new day, that one.
Yeah. So, well done, Ryan. Five from five. That is a very respectable five from five. That was a fairly tough quiz, so well done.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Also, just to say, finished with a flourish, went in there, went big and bold. Didn't go.
[00:40:54] Speaker C: Just had this memory as a kid of United having a terrible record against clearly, clearly paid off.
[00:41:05] Speaker A: Really good shout. Really good shout. Congratulations. Well done, Ryan. The losing streak for me continues. Maybe I'll end up like Eric Ten hag in the international break. Who knows? We'll find out.
[00:41:14] Speaker B: We're going to have to find an opponent for you that you can beat. Belly maybe someone like my mum next week or something like that will ask.
[00:41:23] Speaker A: The awkward thing is I'll probably also lose that quiz and it will be just shame and embarrassment brought to my name and no one else's. Ryan, thanks very much for joining us this week on The Day Today. Great to have you get that. Know it's difficult to get the first game nerves out of the so, yeah.
[00:41:39] Speaker C: The butterflies are out of the way now, so, yeah, I'll be banging those penalties in every week now.
[00:41:45] Speaker A: Exactly. No vomiting in the toilets when you come on the show next time. That's the good news. Matt, thanks as ever for setting me up for failure with the quiz and of course for the rest of the stuff from the week's action as well.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: Thank you.
[00:42:00] Speaker A: That was an awkward pause there. I left there. Anyway, thanks very much, everybody, for tuning in. We will catch you again after the next round of action, the last one before the next international break. On behalf of us, all of us here at Opta Analyst, please do make sure you follow us across social media, whether that's on X, Instagram or Facebook. We are at Opta Analyst across the board. Or of course, you can go visit all our great writing, including Ryan's excellent piece about Aston Villa's season so far. That's all for you. On theanalyst.com on behalf of us all, until next time, take care. Goodbye.
