[00:00:16] Speaker A: And welcome to the day to day after the sort of weekend where if you've been out in the wilderness or on one of those rallies in support of whatever the nations great cause for concern is at the moment, you might have turned on your phone and seen a whole host of information and just wondered what on earth has happened? Well, that's certainly how I feel. Well, happily, to help us look at Broken Records, big derby days and so much more, are Matt Furnace and Ali Tweed out now, Matt, before we start, you do have a big announcement about what's to come up later in the show.
[00:00:49] Speaker B: Yeah, we've easily got the best quiz I've done coming at the end of the show. Our Pulling Quirk quiz today, which I won't reveal the subject of yet, because it might give Ali or Belly a advantage. They might be able to go away and start researching it. But, yeah, it's a cracker. It's my favorite one I've done so far, and there are some great names to be.
[00:01:14] Speaker C: One.
[00:01:14] Speaker A: There's a little bit of a clue, but also, even if I could go away and research, we all know it's pointless. Ali's probably going to win the quiz anyway.
[00:01:22] Speaker B: You wouldn't guess this quiz, I don't think.
[00:01:25] Speaker C: My concern is that it's just going to be whoever knows more about Watford is going to win this quiz because Matt calling it the best he's ever done.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: I'm just checking through the list of players. I don't think any of the players have ever played for Watford.
Well, there's a link to Watford of one of them.
[00:01:44] Speaker C: Hashtag corrected.
[00:01:47] Speaker A: I mean, the list of players who haven't played for Watford is probably a less than those that have.
All right, then, guys, let's get into the talking point from the weekend. And I think there's probably only one place we can start with the final game on Sunday. Don't just give away the cut that we had to make there because someone got it wrong. All right, indeed. Let's get into the talking point of this weekend's action and think there's only one place we can start the late game on Sunday. The goal fest that came at Bramble Lane. Newcastle running out, eight nil victors against Sheffield United.
Literally, the Good, the Bad and the Quirky taking place all inside of 90 OD minutes in Yorkshire. Where does that victory rank overall in Premier League history in terms of goal scored, in terms of blowouts? Let's go for all that.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: Well, it's not the biggest Premier League victory. There have been four games that have seen a nine nil win. So, Man United, Ipswich in March 95, southampton losing at home to Leicester, nine nil in October 2019. A couple 18 months later, Southampton lost again. Nine nil at Manchester United in February 2021. Then Liverpool last season. Beat Bournemouth. Nine nil in the opening month of the season. Newcastle, you feel that they could have got nine if they really wanted to. They probably could have got 13 if they really wanted to. They were on fine form, especially in the second half. Sheffield United looked I don't want to use the words I really want to use there, they were terrible in the second half and it was just awful stuff defensively. Every time you looked up, Newcastle were in the opposition box.
They looked like having the most fun you could ever see a Premier League team have, and it equaled their best top flight league win, which was eight nil against Sheffield Wednesday in September 1999.
It was Sheffield's largest ever defeat in league history in their 4980 Eigth League game. It's the first time they conceded eight goals in a league game since losing ten three to Middlesbrough in November 1993. And on the subject of team scoring ten goals, it was disappointing a state that Newcastle didn't become the first team since boxing Day 1963. The infamous Boxing Day 1963. You always see on social media about the amount of goals scored in that game. Fulham beat Ipswich ten one that day. And the last team to score ten goals in an English League game across the top four tiers was in November 1987, when Man City hammered Huddersfield ten one in the second tier.
So, yeah, it was an absolute route. I'll let Ali talk about the amount of goal scorers you saw in that game as well, because he covered that yesterday on site.
[00:04:37] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I mean, just before I go on to that, I was going to say, while you were talking, it's funny that no one's ever reached ten in the Premier League year and it's been that long. And surely, if there ever was a season for someone to get ten, this is it. With games lasting 110 minutes, do you.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: Think it's like a mark of respect?
[00:05:00] Speaker C: I was wondering. So partly players probably don't want to put in too much effort when you're winning six, seven, eight, nil you're probably like, I'm not going to chase down this ball at a million miles an hour and risk my hamstring going, or something like that. But also, maybe they're a bit like, well, I'm not massively interested in embarrassing my mate from the, I don't know, the Republic of Ireland squad or something like that, but I feel like there should be more motivation to get that.
[00:05:33] Speaker B: Record should the Premier League offer, like, an extra point.
[00:05:37] Speaker C: I don't mean anything like that, but I just mean players care about having individual records, don't they, and care about winning. Getting goal difference can be helpful, can be like a big thing at the end of the season as well.
But there seems to be something stopping teams getting to ten. Newcastle definitely could have gone for it, they could have run and got the ball after ISOP scored the 8th goal and legged it back to halfway. So I think there's a chance that the disparity between the best teams and the worst teams. This season is so big and games are even longer. There's a chance that we could see a ten goal haul, but I would like to see teams going for it a bit more. And what you were asking about was Newcastle set a Premier League record yesterday for the most different scorers in a Premier League game by a single team with eight.
I won't list the names because we're limited on time on this podcast, but it was the second most overall behind the Arsenal's five four win at Tottenham in November 2004 when nine different scorers scored. But again, on my point before, there should have been other Newcastle players who were thinking, I'm in a minority here, I'm going, they got a late free.
[00:07:08] Speaker B: Kick and I was thinking, Bring the goalie up, why not go for it?
[00:07:13] Speaker C: Because of five subs, it was eight scorers and eight non scorers. But you should be wanting to get in. You want to go into the change room afterwards and there'd be three players sat there who haven't scored and the rest of you are all celebrating.
[00:07:29] Speaker B: I'm hoping Dan Burn was doing that dance in front of like you didn't score. I did.
[00:07:34] Speaker A: I'm just thinking old school, like. Football manager championship management used to hand out a goal bonus, like. Right. Your finances would be ruined for the rest of the season after that game having to pay.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: I think Newcastle have to worry about that, mate.
[00:07:44] Speaker C: Exactly.
[00:07:45] Speaker A: That's what has changed football.
But it's funny you mentioned about goal difference there, Ali. This is a complete jump into something different. But I don't know if you saw the Rugby League Championship, that's the words you're not going to hear ever.
It went down to a final day, decided there were three teams who could potentially be relegated.
Whitehaven and Keely Cougars have ended up joint on points on 16 points each. They have been separated by a points difference of three across the whole season. So one team has been, I believe, has been relegated from the Rugby League Championship by just scoring three, having a goal, a points difference of three less than their opponents across a whole season. And there's no reason, with what we're seeing this year in the Premier League, with teams in form all over the place and such, it could come down to a goal difference for a top.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: Five finish, one goal away from top four or something.
[00:08:43] Speaker C: And Newcastle have lost three games already this season. Their goal difference wasn't anything special. I think it was plus one before this game. I might be wrong about that.
[00:08:53] Speaker A: Should probably no, no, you're right. Plus one. It was plus one coming into the weekend and their eight over the weekend took them up to nine, which is, you say, look at teams around West Ham only have a goal difference of one. Aston Villa have a goal difference of two. It's only the top three, City, Liverpool and Brighton, who have a better goal difference than them now. So if it was to come down to goal difference, that's a top four spot, which could make all the difference.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: And City, arguably, they'd already well, sorry, Sheffield United arguably had already played their hardest home game of the season against Man City and only lost two one. And that was a late winner, wasn't it? They nearly took a point off them.
I didn't expect a big win like that, especially. I thought Sheffield actually started quite well as well in the opening 20 minutes. And then we all know the controversy around the opening goal. Did it cross the line? Was it handball, et cetera? Turns out, no, it wasn't for both questions. Yeah.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: And obviously Shepherd United right now, there's a lot of chat now around Hecking Wolf and maybe becoming the first manager to be departing his role this season. Chris Wilder has again been linked with a move back to the club that he took into the Premier League. So last maybe that's the answer. Maybe that's going to be the answer for Sheffield. Right, Ali, you spoke about the North London Derby a little bit earlier on from a few years ago, but when we come back after the break, we're going to look back at the good, the bad and the quirky of the weekend's action, including that North London Derby.
Welcome back to The Day today and thanks for listening. Wherever you are, please remember to give us a rate, a review and subscription wherever you listen to the show, whether that's on Spotify, Apple podcasts or anywhere else for that matter. And don't forget as well to tell a friend, get them to download and join in the great fun that we have here. There's hundreds of you that do so and we really do appreciate all of you who are here so far. Right, we'll soon have the best ever Pauline Quirk quiz, but to get there, we have to go through the good, the bad and the quirky from the weekend's action. Let's go straight to North London. Ali was covering this for us on site yesterday, a great two two game and I think a real you can have an accusation that sometimes North London derbies don't quite live up to the hype. That certainly did yesterday.
[00:11:24] Speaker C: Yeah, it was a really good game.
So much quality on show, both sides, a lot of talking points, controversy had everything, really, but, yeah, I thought Arsenal weren't quite at their best, they weren't helped by losing Declan Rice in particular, but also Fabio Vieira at halftime.
But I thought spurs set up bravely and I think there were postacogli has always been very clear that he's not going to compromise on his way of playing for anything and I think that was part of the criticism of him when he was Celtic manager in the Champions League. They went and pressed away at the Bernabau and got picked off and got battered. And I think there was a bit of a concern that spurs might make those same mistakes.
And I suppose early on it looked like that might be a bit of an issue because they tried to play out again and again and again and Arsenal are really good pressing side and spurs struggled to get out of their own half, but in the end, it paid off for them. A two or draw is absolutely a positive result for Tottenham. And although in the end, Arsenal probably just about would have been content with, well, sort of maybe accept that that was a fair result, I think Tottenham would have been the happier of the two teams, particularly given Arsenal went ahead twice and the fact that they normally always win home. North London derbies.
[00:13:11] Speaker B: Yeah, I think the quick equalizer after Sacca's penalty was key there. I think that Arsenal, if they'd have been able to kind of hold out for five minutes or so, I think would have gone on to win that game.
They seem to be getting the rubber, the green, a bit of the momentum as well, building up to that penalty. That was 98 seconds after Sacca gave the lead. I don't know how many seconds straight off to kick off as well, but Arsenal switched off. I think they were still celebrating that goal in the corner.
And then, yeah, spurs, brilliant steal from Madison, who I thought was brilliant yesterday. I thought he had a dodgy start.
That chance he gave Jesus, as you say there, arsenal were excellent pressing and Jesus pressed Madison really well there. I don't think Madison knew that Jesus was near him and he should have scored. It was a really good chance that would have put him two nil up, I think, at the time.
Would it have put him to N up or one nil up?
[00:14:10] Speaker C: Yeah, that was when the momentum of the game really shifted. And we wrote about this on site, about how after between that Jesus chance on 32 minutes, I think it was, and halftime, spurs had 70% possession, three shots on target, and compared to Arsenal, zero and scored the equalizer, it just kind of gave Tottenham a boost and it really could have put the game to bed, I think. Two nil down. You're not coming back from that away at Arsenal.
[00:14:45] Speaker B: I think it's really interesting to see how the rest of the season pans out. I think spurs fans probably couldn't have hoped for a better start than this. I know on paper you could have had a better start, but it's strangely still the number of points you won at this stage last season under Conte. I think your goal difference has won better this season.
Whilst both teams it's the first time that they both remained unbeaten at least six games into a Premier League campaign since 2004, actually, it's only the second time that both teams ever in top flight have been unbeaten after six games that season. In 2005, spurs finished 9th, Arsenal finished second. So it did change a little bit there, but it feels like a much different era now. Under postacoglu, much more attacking.
It looks like all the players are on board as well with what Koglu wants to do, so it's going to be really interesting to see how that develops over a season. I'm very much in neutral here. I enjoyed Tottenham's performance yesterday. I really like this Tottenham team and I like the way they play. I like postacoglu. I think it's going to be a top four finish this season. The way things are going to go, if they can strengthen in January, it could even be better.
[00:16:02] Speaker C: Yeah, January is a bit of an issue because they've got SA and Bissuma at the African Cup of nations and Son going to the Asia Cup, but I don't know how many games they're going to miss.
[00:16:15] Speaker B: But that's two Premier League games in January, 2 Premier League match days and I think the AFCON will be over then. Asia cup goes a little bit later, so Son will be missing, but don't worry, you've got Oliver Skip and you've got Weiberg, so you'll be fine.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: Benton Kerr coming back from injury.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: Yeah. People forget how good he was when he first came to that side as well. A great player, Benton Kerr like him, he's shaking his.
[00:16:45] Speaker C: Mean.
[00:16:45] Speaker A: The really interesting thing to it as well, a lot of the pre season chat, obviously, around Tottenham was around, kane's gone, how are they going to replace Kane? They've not replaced Kane per se, with another striker. It just looks like Son's going to step up and Madison's going to become that provider for him. Like you say, it was a slightly dodgy start, but Madison in full flow, saka in full flow as well for Arsenal, like two great young talents just dominating games at times.
[00:17:13] Speaker B: Ali, you'll know this more than anyone else as a spurs fan, but do you feel that over the past few years, maybe spurs players have been hiding behind the fact that Kane could always get them out of trouble and it was kind of like leaving it up to him, almost.
[00:17:27] Speaker C: I don't know if they would have consciously been doing that, but everything went through Harry Kane. Sorry, absolutely everything. And so I imagined that when you were in big moments in the final third, players were looking for him. And I don't think it was like, well, I don't really need to do anything here because we've got Harry Kane. But I think it would have affected the overall team performance. And I think that everyone is kind of probably enjoying that they've got more responsibility now without him.
That's not to say I think Tottenham would be an unbelievable team if they had Harry Kane up front. I think he's good enough that he would have just adapted his game to fit into this system, which would have involved him staying much higher and not coming back to get the ball as much as he used to under Conte, or even before.
I mean, the team's adapted really well and the job postacoglia's done so far is really something special. I think.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: I was just going to say, it doesn't seem like Harry's really missing playing for Tottenham with how things are going for him over in Munich as well. And we talk about people carrying the shows at the moment. You two are going to be carrying us through the next section, which is obviously the bad from the weekend's action. By the way, if you're a longtime listener of the podcast, please don't think we're just repeating ourselves here, but really, the same few teams seem to be appearing in this section week after week.
Let's talk about Chelsea. First of all, a one nil defeat against Aston Villa.
That poches rebuild that he's got to do there. It seems like week after week, it's just getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
[00:19:19] Speaker B: I mean, injuries aren't helping his cause, but also the terrible finishing in front of goal is also not helping his cause.
I mean, we put a style this morning, I think, doing the rounds about how ever present Premier League teams this calendar year. So far, no team has won fewer than Chelsea. Chelsea are one of the worst teams in the Premier League this year. 25 points they've won in 2023. That's the same as Everton, who obviously, everyone knows, have struggled over the last few years and won less than Bournemouth 26.
When you compare them to where a lot of people think Chelsea should be, I mean, they're 25 points compared to Man City 71, arsenal 55, Liverpool 55, aston Villa 55, Brighton 53. It's just appalling, really. I mean, even with the squad that they've got and the injuries they have, they should not be performing as badly. But again, yesterday, it was a tale of chances missed before Ollie Watkins finally scored a Premier League goal. This mean Jackson got booked again. He's now suspended another player out.
I thought he was unlucky at the start. He had that chance. That was well saved, actually, was. I think he picked the right side to go with the goalkeepers. It was unfortunate. I think Sterling missed chance.
There's a lack of confidence running through that side. They're a young side. They've got, as I said before, more senior players out injured and it just isn't running for them. Losing to Villa is no disgrace. Villa are a very good side. Emery on paper, I was not surprised when Aston Villa beat Chelsea yesterday, but surely they're going to have the rub of the green sooner or later, they're going to get a bit of mean. They're under points of xg. I don't have the exact numbers to hand here, but since the last start of last season, I believe, is only better than Everton's.
And there comes a point, is it a lack of quality in the final third, or is it just bad luck?
Because yeah, it's just not happening for them at all. And Pottuccino has done so well at Tottenham in the past, but since that final season at Tottenham, his stock really has fallen as a manager and there's probably question marks about how good a manager he is.
[00:21:56] Speaker C: He's got I think it would be crazy for Chelsea to take the same approach to this phase of their history as they have with managers over the last 20 years, because it would be mad to give up on him anytime soon.
And he does have, like you say, a lot of mitigating circumstances that he can call on, the injuries, for example, and the fact that they've bought so many new players. But I also think that they should maybe question their idea of how to do this. Is buying an entire new squad really? Was that a good idea? And I wonder how long it takes for them to how long do they give this squad with this manager to see if it works? Because they're obviously good players in there, but they clearly need a lot of time together to see if it works. And I hope they don't just go out in January and think, well, this isn't working. We need to buy more players, and then next summer think, this isn't working. We need to sack the manager and just keep this sort of overhaul of players and staff, because I personally don't think that's the way to approach this kind of thing.
[00:23:23] Speaker B: You're saying this to a Watford fan, Ellie. I know this full well. It's not the way.
[00:23:29] Speaker A: You mentioned about Nicholas Jackson earlier. I've just done the numbers myself here. Six games, five yellows, all for Descent. 511 minutes played. Is this the earliest suspension for a player in Premier League history?
[00:23:40] Speaker C: Wow. Descent.
[00:23:42] Speaker A: He's only given away six fouls so far, but all five cautions have been for Descent.
[00:23:47] Speaker C: Wow.
New directives are working. Stamping out horrible, horrible descent. Poor guy. I wonder if all of them were bad.
I totally think that players should be booked for Descent, and we've written about it, I've written about it on the site if anyone wants to check those pieces out, but it seems a bit harsh to get a suspension six games into the season.
[00:24:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I'll have a look and I'll do something on Twitter or X about that. I think earliest to five red cards, five yellow cards. We can definitely well, they did get one yesterday, which we don't agree on, do we, Ali? I didn't think it was red. You do. I think that it's easy if you slow something down through VAR, you can see the worst in everything.
And I agree that it was slightly naughty, but he won the ball and at full speed. You see tackles like that all the time. I just thought it was a bit harsh.
[00:24:54] Speaker C: Yeah, I get what you're saying. I just think that they're being so harsh on things like dissent and time wasting, which obviously people get very wound up about and we want to get rid of. But for me, I get much more annoyed by dangerous tackles and I think we should be harsher on them, because if I was on the receiving end of something like that, if I'm on the receiving end of someone taking too long to take a throw in, I'm, like, really wound up that that's it. If I'm on the receiving end of that Mallow Gusto tackle, I mean, my frail body would just.
[00:25:38] Speaker B: How about Eddie and Ketia's tackle?
[00:25:40] Speaker C: Well, exactly, yeah, same.
[00:25:42] Speaker B: I would have been going full warnock on the sideline. Hey, we're in London, aren't we?
[00:25:47] Speaker C: Yeah. Anyway, I don't think this is really our bag, is it?
[00:25:52] Speaker A: Talking about, I'll bring it around. Third youngest player to be sent off for Chelsea in the Premier League. Can you name either of the other two?
[00:26:00] Speaker B: Yes, because I have the fact in front of me, so I'm not going to ruin it.
[00:26:05] Speaker C: Pressures on Ali Morris.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: Oh, no.
John Obi McKell is the youngest and Robert Hoof, friend of the podcast from in our previous.
[00:26:18] Speaker C: I can't picture Robert Hooth being young, I can't picture him.
[00:26:22] Speaker B: In a Chelsea shirt, cyborg built, 20 years old.
Yeah, so Chelsea not great, but we can talk about the other not great, I think.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: Yeah, indeed. There are three teams who came into the Premier League this season and there are three teams sitting in the relegation mean, we've already spoken about one of them in Sheffield United, but also not a great weekend for Burnley, probably a slightly better weekend for Luton. Surprise, the bus parade hasn't been booked in around Hertfordshire for the point they've already gained from this game, judging by Bedfordshire.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: Don't snag off Hartfordshire like that. Luton are in Bedfordshire.
[00:27:01] Speaker A: Who needs facts on this podcast?
They're all over the board, they've all abandoned it.
[00:27:08] Speaker B: Luton, Burnley, Sheffield United. Now, it's a cumulative total of 16 games played, because obviously, Luton Burnley was postponed on matchday two, which is to be played next week, I think.
And in those 16 games, those three clubs combined have won three points and not won a game yet. So we've looked back over Premier League history at the newly promoted teams and the opening 18 games. Granted, it's not the easiest comparison because of the Luton Burnley game, but then again, if that game had been played, the maximum points that could have been won was three, because obviously they play each other. So that would still mean that this is the lowest points won by the three newly promoted clubs in a Premier League season after, at this stage of season, behind 2004 five.
I think that was the season where it went down to the final day. Yeah, it was it was the only season where there's been no team relegated until the final day of the season and West Brom survived. Palace, Norwich and Southampton went down. I think palace and Norwich were the newly promoted teams as well as West Brom that season, so who knows, there could be one team that stay up on the evidence so far, you'd probably suggest that would be Burnley.
I mean, Luton did win their first point of the season and their first ever Premier League point. They should have won all three. They were gifted a penalty, in my opinion. They were also gifted the ability to play ten men because it was a very harsh red card.
Again, not something we all agree on, but I think that Luton had the majority of play in that game, should have won the game, and it required another Colton Morris penalty to win a point. They'll be disappointed not to have one or three. We've talked about Sheffield United already and the horrendous day they had yesterday, and Burnley probably again could have got something on Saturday. We don't think Man United played that well. They scraped a win, which is what they needed, but it's not looking good for those needed teams.
Yeah, it could be possibly the weakest three teams that we've seen come up.
I've long said last season championship was one of the worst I've seen in terms of quality. The overall quality of the league was poor last season, Burnley won the league at Canter, but that was only because everyone else was rubbish. Sheffield United did OK and they were automatically promoted. Luton somehow got promoted.
I'm saying that as a Watford fan.
And even if Coventry had got promoted at Luton's expense, it would have been probably even worse this season.
I doubt they would have held onto Jocarez anyway. And, yeah, it was just not great. So probably a worry there is the disparity between the Premier League and the Championship getting bigger.
I mean, the three teams that have been relegated from the Premier League last season in the Championship this season, Leicester and Leeds look excellent. Probably should bounce back. Southampton under Russell Martin, not quite working, but still enough points on the board that they can recover there. So you could see all the three teams bounce back this season again.
So it makes you worry a little bit about the future. Unless there's financial, I don't know, people coming into these clubs and championship and buying them and a lot of money coming in. Can they compete? I don't know.
[00:30:45] Speaker A: Definitely. If you haven't already, go head over to optaranalysteatheranalyst.com. Matt last week wrote an excellent piece about Preston North End and their incredible start to the season under Ryan Lowe. Don't just put it down to the fact he's a Watford fan, looking at other teams coming and beating them and going, god, they're good football teams.
[00:31:00] Speaker B: Because.
[00:31:00] Speaker A: I think he's going to do one about.
[00:31:03] Speaker C: They're brilliant.
[00:31:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Preston drew this weekend, so I still think it's going to be a big ask for them to come up into top flight for the first time since 1961. But there's always one team, there's always one team that comes through that you don't expect in the championship to get promoted. And there are worse clubs that could do that than Preston. It'd be nice to see them. Obviously the original Invincibles come back and play top flight football would be nice indeed.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: Right, we've done the good, we've done the bad. It's time for the moment you've all been waiting for. It's time for the Quirky and of course, the Pauline Quirk quiz. This is always the highlight of the show. We know you will wait for this. Matt, what is your Quirky stat about this weekend's Premier League action?
[00:31:49] Speaker B: Right, so the stat itself is not about the Premier League.
The quiz will involve the Premier League. So Ali's obviously got many posters of this man on his walls at home, but Harry Kane, he scored three goals in Bayern Munich, seven nil route of Bockham on Saturday in the German Bundesliga. Obviously, we consider this a hat trick. In Germany, you're not so lucky. It's not a hat trick because he didn't score three consecutive goals in the game. They have to be uninterrupted goals, according to the Germans. Obviously, regardless of what they think, it's a hat trick.
[00:32:25] Speaker C: So in doing I just want to interrupt. Did Harry Kane, I've seen the goals, but I haven't seen afterwards, did the ref try and walk off with the ball and he went up and was like, no, that's mine, I'm taking down.
[00:32:40] Speaker B: Wrestling with the referee. I haven't yeah, I'm going to try and find that clip, see if I've taken the ball. But it's a hat trick in football terms. I don't know what the Germans are thinking there, but it's obviously a hat trick. So regardless of what they think, in doing so, he became the 37th different player to both score a hat trick in the Premier League and one of Europe's other big four leagues since the inception of the Premier League in 1992.
I want you guys to give me those players. So there is a slight stipulation here. This is since the Premier League began. So a player could have scored in Syria in 1991 and then scored a hat trick in the Premier League after that, they wouldn't be included in this.
I think I've covered all of those because Zola didn't do it, Ravenelli didn't do it, et cetera. Just giving you two names, F, god's sake.
But there's 37 players. We're going to do a penalty shootout again. You should each score your first penalty, because I've just given you two names, but I want you to guess those players that have done it. So you have to have scored a hat trick in the Premier League and you also have to have scored a hat trick in either or across the Bundesliga, in Germany, Syria in Italy, La Liga in Spain, Liga in France.
Give me those players.
[00:34:12] Speaker A: The good news is David James isn't going to be one of the answers for this one.
[00:34:17] Speaker B: Harry Kane, by the way, harry Kane is one of those 37 players. Granted.
[00:34:22] Speaker A: Right, we know what the question is. Now, Ali and I have about a minute to scribble some name down, think about what we are going to come up for this one and when we come back, we'll have the answers and the infamous penalty shootout in the Paul Inquiry quiz on the data.
[00:34:36] Speaker B: Just clear one thing up, belly. I did say zola and Ravenelli. They are not actually two of the players because they did not score a hat trick in the other leagues. So you can't guess those. I don't want you to guess those after me giving you confidence to say that. So they are not two of those players.
[00:34:52] Speaker A: There you go. We'll be back after the break.
Hello and welcome back to The Day Today where it is the time for the Pauline Quirk quiz. And this one, I can tell you right now, in the little break we've had, I think Ali and I have got a list of hundreds of names where we did they actually score a Premier League hat trick? Did they actually score a hat trick where they were previously in the Bundles League or et cetera? Matt, do you want to repeat the question for the audience to play along with at home?
[00:35:29] Speaker B: Yes. So, after Harry Kane scored a hat trick for Bayern Munich this weekend, 37 different players have scored a hat trick, both in the Premier League and one of Europe's other big four leagues. So, Germany, Spain, Italy, France since the inception of the Premier League in 1992, I want you to guess those players. In a penalty shootout style quiz, you can't have Harry Kane. So there's 36 players up for grabs and, yeah, good luck with that one, Ali.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: As ever, guests on the podcast get to choose whether they want to take first or want to take second.
[00:36:09] Speaker C: I'll go first.
[00:36:10] Speaker A: I like that. Bold and confident. Put the ball on the spot. Right then play along at home. Ladies and gentlemen, have your pen and paper scribble down for this one.
As ever, it will get to about the third spot kick and it'll all go south. Ali, you go.
[00:36:24] Speaker C: Cristiano Ronaldo.
[00:36:27] Speaker B: Cristiano Ronaldo is on there. He scored three Premier League hat tricks, 34 La Liga hat tricks and eight Syria hat tricks. So, yeah, one nil 18.
Yes. Wow.
[00:36:39] Speaker A: Farmers League.
I'm going to go for Fernando Torres.
[00:36:48] Speaker B: Fernando Torres.
No, he's not on this list.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: This is an early miss. I was very confident he would have scored one in La Liga.
[00:37:00] Speaker C: Definitely wasn't very up. High up my list.
[00:37:06] Speaker B: One ELAP already. Ali your second guess.
[00:37:10] Speaker C: Erling Harland.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: Erling Harland. Five premier League hat tricks. Three Bundesliga hat tricks. Yes.
Two nil up already. Belly, you got to score this one, mate.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: The pressures on did not have Erling Harland on my list. That's all you need to know about this. Let's go for Rude Van Nistelroy.
[00:37:29] Speaker B: Rude van nistroy. Five premier League hat tricks. Two la liga hat tricks. Yes, he is one of those players.
[00:37:38] Speaker A: Goodness for that.
[00:37:41] Speaker C: Thierry Henri.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: Thierry Henri. Eight Premier League hat tricks. Two La Liga hat tricks of Barcelona. He is on the list. Good shout.
[00:37:52] Speaker A: Did not have him on my list.
Let's go for a very risky one, jean Luca Viali.
[00:38:01] Speaker B: So earlier on, I said there is a link to Watford. Jean Luca Viali. Is that link. He scored one Premier League hat trick, two serial hat tricks since 1992.
So, yeah, you scored that penalty, Ali. Make it four from four.
[00:38:19] Speaker C: Romellu Lukaku.
[00:38:24] Speaker B: No, unfortunately not.
[00:38:28] Speaker C: Where did he not score a hatchet?
[00:38:31] Speaker B: I don't know. I don't have that list, but he's not on my list.
[00:38:35] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:38:35] Speaker B: I don't think he scored one in Syria.
[00:38:38] Speaker C: He definitely scored one in the Premier League.
[00:38:40] Speaker B: Yeah, because he scored that one in.
[00:38:41] Speaker C: The five all against United.
[00:38:44] Speaker B: But let me just look at my database to make sure I haven't mucked this up. I'm pretty sure I haven't.
[00:38:54] Speaker A: I had him on my list.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: I have roman Lulu Carcal limey 1234-5678, 910, 1112 braces in Syria. Never a hat trick.
[00:39:06] Speaker A: Yeah, that's a great one.
Game on.
[00:39:11] Speaker B: Belly, you can get level with this penalty drama. We're going to have to go sudden death, maybe.
[00:39:16] Speaker A: I don't think you're going to, because you'll see the absolute dregs of players that have come into my mind.
[00:39:23] Speaker B: Some big names still in here on this list.
[00:39:25] Speaker A: I appreciate that, but it's whether I can remember these big names that should be on this list to the point. And this is just going to be and before, I guess, one, this is one I've written down and I put a question mark next to it.
I want to say he scored a hat trick in his brief time in the Premier League. And I want to say he scored a hat trick in the German top flight, tony Yeboa.
[00:39:46] Speaker B: Is that your penalty kick?
[00:39:49] Speaker A: I have gone with Tony Yeboa.
[00:39:51] Speaker B: Anthony Yaboa scored two premier League hat tricks. Four bundesliga hat tricks. He is on the list. Great penalty. Wow, you smashed that top corner pressman style. Great.
[00:40:05] Speaker A: Guess I'm now in trouble.
[00:40:08] Speaker B: Ali, fifth penalty.
This is pretty much sudden death now. Three all after four pennies taken.
[00:40:19] Speaker C: I'm did he score?
I've got just lists of players who scored goals now without being able to remember specific hat tricks for any of them. Really. I'm going to go pierre emerick or bamiyang.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: Right, so this man is actually a record holder because he scored a hat trick in four different top five European leagues. One in the Premier League, four in the Bundesliga, one in Liga and one in La Liga. He is on the list. And, yeah, that is like a Penenka penalty.
[00:40:58] Speaker C: Double points.
Not quite yet.
[00:41:02] Speaker B: Ellie, you've got a score, otherwise you've lost five already. And this is the.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: Right. I have two names left. One is a big question mark, one is a huge big question mark.
But Ali's answer there made me think of someone else.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: Lacazette, who was your other guess?
[00:41:29] Speaker A: My other guess was David Platt.
[00:41:31] Speaker B: Okay, you were wrong on both mates, but that was a difficult one. And forget three was a great guess.
[00:41:45] Speaker C: Can I go through my other names of players? This might be where I embarrass myself by just naming loads of wrong answers.
[00:41:52] Speaker A: But, oh, don't worry, that's what I do in the quiz, so don't worry.
[00:41:56] Speaker C: Dennis Burkamp.
[00:41:58] Speaker B: No.
[00:42:01] Speaker C: Eden Hazard.
[00:42:02] Speaker B: Yes. Two in the Premier League. One Liga.
[00:42:06] Speaker C: Might have got one for Leel Fingmin son.
[00:42:10] Speaker B: Yes. Scored two Bundeslig hat tricks before he moved to the Premier League. He's got four in the Premier League.
[00:42:16] Speaker C: Emmanuel Adebayo.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: Yes. Three Premier League, one Liga and one La Liga.
[00:42:24] Speaker C: Is that everyone? Oh, alexis Sanchez.
[00:42:28] Speaker B: Yes. Two Premier League, one La Liga, one Syria.
[00:42:31] Speaker C: Are you just showboating now?
Last one is Dimitar.
[00:42:36] Speaker B: No goalkeeper in the goal, but Ali is just taking penalties.
[00:42:40] Speaker C: Dimitar. Berbatov.
[00:42:41] Speaker B: Berbatov also did it. Yeah. Five premier League two Bundesliga.
I will give you the list of the other players now, just in case anyone's playing at home. Sergio Aguero. Denver Barr. Gareth Bale. Yossi Banayun. Freddie Bobbich. Henri Kamara. John Carru. Diego Costa. Edin Zeko. Samuel ETU. Olivier Giroud. Solomon Kalu. Jurgen Klinsman, who scored a Liga hat trick, which I don't remember at all in playing in that competition. Maxi Rodriguez, savo Molosovic, mohamed Salah Alvaro Marata, who I completely forgot played in the Premier League. Peter Odemwingi, robert Pirez, pavel Pogrebiak. I think I said that right. I haven't butchered it. Andre Sherler Luis Suarez. Carlos Tevez. And finally, sylvan viltor.
Well done, Alan. I reckon you got eight of those, I think, in the end, didn't you?
[00:43:40] Speaker A: Yeah, some great names. I was trying to think of players in Liga who scored like Sylvan Viltor, John Carew. I can't believe John Carus scored a Premier League hat trick.
[00:43:47] Speaker B: In doubt, always go France, because there's always been quite a few goalscorers that play in France and have done quite well in England.
So that is the rule of thumb. There are a lot of Liga hat tricks there, but yeah, well done. I thought you did well there, actually. I didn't expect people to do as well, but hopefully you enjoyed that quiz as much as I did. Putting it together.
[00:44:07] Speaker C: Very good.
[00:44:09] Speaker A: Congrats to the quiz master there. Let us know how you got on with that one by letting us know on Twitter. We're at optoralist. Or of course, you can drop us an email.
[email protected] that's all we've got for this week's episode of The Day Today. Thanks very much for tuning in, really do appreciate it. Matt Alley, thanks for joining in with the fun as ever. A really great show in the bag there. We'll be back very soon, but until then, from all of us analysts, take care and goodbye.
