[00:00:06] Speaker A: Hello and welcome to The Day today where we are following in Angie's footsteps and playing a high line defensively. It sadly means there's no room for the slightly less fleet foot defensively Matt Furnace today. But we can more than make up for that by having Ali Tweedale and David Seeker join me Graham, to look back over one of the most entertaining, intriguing and just genuinely fun games of football I've watched in quite a while, probably unless you were sat in the spurs end of the stadium. Am I right there, ali.
[00:00:39] Speaker B: It was still fun. It was still fun. I mean, it was it was crazy. It was very entertaining, really difficult. I mean, this is not what we want to go into, but really difficult to follow. What the hell was going on? I heard someone on the way out the ground say there were 14 separate VAR delays and, I mean, there was like 21 minutes of added on time overall, so it wasn't the greatest sort of viewing experience and it went on and on and on and on. A bit too long, I think, in the end, but, yeah, it was still fun. Still a good time had by all.
[00:01:19] Speaker A: I think that came across at home, didn't it, David? I mean, it was the third longest match of the season, 111 minutes, 19 seconds.
Peter Drury even made comment of, if you've got school tomorrow, you're probably not catching the end of this one.
But it was definitely even though you had all these delays, that kind of added to the intrigue, didn't it?
[00:01:39] Speaker C: Yeah, it was an absolutely fascinating game for a number of reasons, I think.
Matt was doing our social last night and he mentioned something about the first half, even though it almost went an hour, the ball was only in play for about 23 minutes of that time, but it still felt like it was all action.
Yeah.
I was wondering, if you were to boil it down into a highlights package, how long that would be. I feel like that would be close to an hour. It was a fascinating game, but as completely a neutral watching the game, I do have to admit that my heart did break for Tottenham when Chelsea finally found the breakthrough. Because even though they were kind of put themselves in that mess with two players in particular who seemed desperate to be sent off for reasons unknown, the Nine who remained fought valiantly and it looked for a while like they actually might possibly frustrate Chelsea all the way, but it wasn't to be.
[00:02:37] Speaker B: I don't think spurs deserved anything out of that game.
You can't have two players sent off and deserve anything out of the game. So I can understand sort of a sympathetic kind of like they've tried really hard with nine men for a long time here, but you just can't play like that and expect to get anything out of a Premier League game, let alone against a team like Chelsea where they've got a billion pounds worth of players in their squad.
[00:03:04] Speaker A: Well, it was obviously Tottenham becoming the last team to lose in the Premier League this season. Twelve games into the competition.
Sorry for the first defeat in twelve games in the competition, even on that front.
Also post Cogulu's incredible home winning unbeaten run as a manager coming to an end after 52 games if you include his time at Celtic and Yokohama.
But the reality is for the opening part of the game where I wasn't really paying attention because football manager Touch came out on my iPad yesterday, by the way, reading a fifth in the table, don't know what Ruben Tellers his problem is.
It looked like it could have easily have been spurs running away with a five nil victory in that one.
[00:03:45] Speaker B: Ali yeah, the start was it's crazy to think from where the game was when Son put spurs two nil up, but to actually how their match ended, yeah, it was a real roller coaster, but Tottenham started really well. They were by far the better team and I think spurs have looked a little bit like not quite. It's been a really good start and to be unbeaten this far until the Chelsea game was obviously a massive positive. But I do think that in the last few weeks they've not looked quite as good. The Crystal Palace performance at Crystal Palace was really bad.
There was the win over Luton, which was fine and fairly impressive because it was with ten men, but I don't know, spurs hadn't been as good as they had been earlier in the season, so this run was always going to come to an end. So I guess the start was a real, real massive positive. To be playing that well, to be playing Chelsea off the pitch, to be one nil up, to have very nearly gone two nil up, and to have looked at that point like they were going to run away with it.
There were a lot of positives to take from it. But then obviously the self destruct button was too tempting.
[00:05:05] Speaker A: Obviously self destruct button in terms of sending off, they were unfortunate as well, with a couple of very key injuries. Mickey Vanderven obviously, I'm going to say it's funny when a guy pulls a hamstring like that, isn't it?
You always have a little way because it's happened to most have to just sort of arise, smile as a man limps away from those sort of things. And obviously James Madison as well. Possibly slightly more concerning for Tottenham, depending on how much that what I assume was another hamstring injury. But it sounds like it was a knock from a challenge, even though I swear he was holding the back of his leg rather than his ankle in the early stages of that one. But David Spurs seemed to at times cope with the fact that they were down to nine men against this Chelsea side like. Yes, there were some very impressive defensive scrambles. Let's not talk about Nicholas Jackson's miss from 0.1 yard out. I think we'll find out on the radar. But on the whole, you would not have believed at times that it was a nine man team up against eleven.
[00:06:08] Speaker C: Well, that was the fascinating approach from Poster Cogli when it was eleven v nine, of course, of playing this incredibly high, high line, which he said after the game, that's just the way his teams are going to play, even if they play with five. And Jamie Kerriga quite rightly said, no offence to Tottenham, but we now desperately want to see them get six men sent off in a game, just so we can see what that looks like. A high line with five players. But, yeah, I thought it was brave, to put it kindly, I guess. And as I said earlier, for a long time it worked. Chelsea looked completely flummoxed by the approach. They clearly weren't expecting it. They realized that the only way to get through it was to play through balls and try and time runs in behind. They were terrible at that. For about 1520 minutes after Udogi got sent off, they got caught off side a number of times. When they did get in behind, either the pass was overhit or the finish was dreadful. There was a time Cucarella timed his run perfectly and got in behind and all he had to do was pass it to Sterling for a tap in and he tried to shoot. Vicario made an excellent save. Vicario, I thought, was outstanding in that period as well. His sweeper keeping was on point, he was timing his runs out perfectly, getting to the ball before everyone else. As I said, they look for a like chelsea might hold them off, but ultimately the way they scored the second, it really, really felt like it had been coming. And maybe that's where the naivety comes in somewhat, where you think it's fine to frustrate them for a bit, but surely when it keeps happening, you can't keep pushing your luck. And eventually that luck ran out and even Nicholas Jackson was able to score, bless him. I really like Jackson as a player of what he could be, but he was having a dreadful game up until that point and it's insane that he ends the game with a hat trick. But, yeah, I think it was a brave performance from spurs and Hoibier when he came on, I thought he was fantastic as well. Really seemed to be embodying the spirit that was needed. But, yeah, when you've got two fewer players and you keep standing on the halfway line, you're almost literally asking for mean.
[00:08:13] Speaker A: Let's not even talk about Eric Dyer's superb finish. I mean, it was such a shame that one was took what seemed like an exceedingly amount of time on the VAR check on that one. Like to the eye it looked offside straight away and all of a sudden it felt like they were just really dotting the I's and crossing the T's on that one to make sure that it was given in the right direction.
Ali, I'm going to ask the question I don't want to ask, but I'm going to ask it out loud. Is this the end of Spurs'title ambitions?
[00:08:42] Speaker B: Well, no one was reasonably saying that Tottenham were in the title race.
It is a big blow though to their top four hopes and I don't think the defeat itself is because losing to Chelsea isn't that catastrophic a result, but losing De Vin for I imagine the rest of the year it'll probably be if it's a bad hamstring injury. Don't know how long Madison will be out, that would be really bad because I think in all the positions Tottenham have on the pitch, centre back and attacking midfield are where there's the biggest drop off because you go from De Vin and Romero. Romero will be out for three games now and spurs have got Wolves away. Obviously that's a tough game, they've just taken points off Villa as well and you've suddenly got Emerson Royale and Eric Dyer at centre back and Giovanni Lo Selso playing behind the striker. All fine Premier League players but not Champions League challenging players and against really tough opposition as well. So, yeah, I think it is a big bloke, but I think also the kind of manner of the defeat and how long they kind of held out with ten and then even with nine men will have really kind of galvanized the squad and will have given players. Like you've mentioned, Hoibergi was really good. Emerson Royale and Dyer were actually pretty good at center back players like Oliver Skip did well, Bentenko was really good when he came on. So I think there had been quite a lot of concern among Tottenham fans that the drop when players started missing to the second string was too big. And I think if there was ever going to be a game where you lose a few key players, the way that this game went was probably the best it could have done in that those players will have got quite a bit of confidence that they could come in and probably coglu would get a bit of confidence in them as mean.
[00:11:08] Speaker A: We'll go to a break very quickly in a minute, but it almost feels like I think you are right in what you say then. Also the timing of the we've got an international break coming up after this weekend's. Coming up games. Like if there is a big reset into OK van der Ven as you say, is out for the season. The year Madison's going to be out for a while. He does get that week to maybe just rethink things with the international break and just put in new plans in place and it's not like all of a sudden they've got to go into a national break and you come out and all of a sudden it is royale, it is Hoiberg all having to step up into these first team starter roles.
It could be actually really good timing for spurs on this front and they actually get a chance to reset. You say the performances haven't been as pleasing over the last few weeks. Chance just to hit a reset button. Every team has a bad month. This might be Spurs's bad month in inverted commas, and they get a chance to reset and build up as they make the run into the festive period.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: Yeah, essentially very glass half full kind of take on it.
Yeah, I don't know, I suppose from a Chelsea perspective it was also they should take away from this, they should take some momentum away from this. But equally like the frustration of struggling to break down a team that they should have just torn apart.
You think of all the hat tricks there have ever been, can't think of one that would be less confidence inducing than that one. But maybe I'm wrong. Maybe we'll see Jackson go on a crazy scoring streak there.
[00:12:46] Speaker A: All it reminded me of was as an under goodness me, our double winning season as an under twelve, we came up against a team called Christ the King and they played exactly the same high line and still one of our strikers who will remain nameless, but he is now a chef at a league, one football club. He just kept running offside every time we played the ball over the top, just kept running offside. So at least they made a step up on that.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: Did you not have VAR?
[00:13:11] Speaker A: We did not have VAR. We had Brian Crane on the line. That was as good as it got really. Might as well have been VAR. Same thing. Free free draw still won. The title story writes itself, really. Right. We'll be back after this very quick break and we'll look over the rest of the weekend's Premier League action and get ready for the pauline Quirk quits.
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Yep, you're as surprised as all of us by art, but hey, the numbers are the numbers. It's what it is. Anyway, let's look over the other games that took place in the Premier League this weekend. But we are actually going to start by going to Tottenham Hotspur Stadium last night for the first of our facts because kind of got forgotten about in all this, that it was Pochettino's return to his former club and he became the fourth manager to beat Tottenham in the Premier League after previously managing them in the competition, joining the illustrious names of Chris Uten, Martin Yol and Tim Sherwood. Not a gilay in sight for that one there. Anyway, let's look for the rest of the games. And you know what, this was a slightly surprise result, I think it's fair to say. Luton won Everton. Sorry, luton won, liverpool won. Lewis Diaz's equalizer coming for Liverpool in their 24th and final attempt of the game, timed at 94 40. It was their latest Premier League equalizer since Divock Ogarigi's strike against West Brom back in December 2015, which was a fall nearly 50 seconds later. Dave, is this going to be, on reflection, after what happened with Tottenham last night? Is this very much a case of two points dropped here for Liverpool, or is this one point gained from a very difficult situation?
[00:15:47] Speaker C: I think it has to be looked at, two points drop, not least because, as Ali mentioned earlier, tottenham won away at Lucent recently with ten men, albeit that was a pretty tough game as well. But, yeah, a relief not to lose, which looked like it would be the case when Heath Chong scored what was a very nice breakaway goal with ten minutes remaining. But, yeah, to get the late equalizer, I think was big in terms of not getting that second defeat of the season, which I think would have felt more significant. But it has to be looked at two points dropped, because I just can't see that other teams around Liverpool are going to drop points in that fixture. I think most other teams, all due respect to Luton, are probably going to take three points from it, but I think Luton had to have a lot of credit from that game. They played very well, were deserving of the point. Even Liverpool, obviously, were on top and created more chances. And Darwin Nunez's nine shots, none of which resulted in a goal I think showed his confidence. That's growing and developing and I think if he keeps going, he's going to score more goals than he did last season. But Liverpool could really do with at least one of those going in. But also, just to mention, it's obviously a very nice moment for Luis Diaz with everything he's going through at the moment with his parents. His father still not recovered yet, but looks like it's going the right way. But for him to get that goal and obviously show that message afterwards was a nice moment for him.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: Yeah, incredible pressure on his shoulders as he's hard to think. You still got to try and turn out performances like that when you have such turmoil going on in your personal life. That Luton point makes it fairly interesting.
There was a lot being made this weekend of that. This still is the Accumulative lowest points total that we've seen from three newly promoted sides coming into the competition. But maybe that tide is turning. You only have to look at some of the other results down the bottom there. Sheffield United obviously picking up their victory and one thing teams need to do against Sheffield United don't give them penalties. They've scored from their last five that they've been awarded in the Premier League. Last famous score all the way back. Obviously took a season out from this, but September 2020, so, yeah, good victory for them against Wolves, who they seem very Jekyll and Hyde this season. Wolves Alley like you're going to get these performances where they pick up and take points off those sides at the top of the toe, but then something like a Sheffield United where really they should be taking the victory. They would feel they're dropping three points.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: Yeah, I think they like having space to attack into. They're very good on the counter attack.
They also rely fairly heavily on Pedro Neto and he is injured, I don't know, I'm not sure how long for, so that would have made a difference. But yes, from Sheffield United's point of view, really massive point, not a penalty that they got to win it, but you need a bit of luck. And also maybe it does make the relegation battle interesting.
I think a lot of people, myself included, have written off the newly promoted teams pretty early on.
People say Sheffield United just don't have enough quality, burnley are just too naive playing their possession based football at this level and Luton just didn't invest in enough quality. Players didn't have the money to invest in enough quality and felt quite like a team that were ready to go back down, sort of almost preparing to be back in the championship next season. But Bournemouth are right down there. There's a possibility of an Everton points deduction. Obviously, Everton have improved quite a lot recently, but twelve points would be a massive that's what the potential deduction is I think could really make the relegation battle interesting, which for people not involved with those teams would make the whole season a lot more interesting. I think, like at the top of the table, most people think City are just going to win the league again.
I mean, there's not that much chance of a proper title race in the Premier League any season anymore. Liverpool had to be like ridiculously exceptional to even make it close for a couple of years. So a relegation battle would be quite nice for the overall entertainment value of the league.
[00:20:10] Speaker A: Yeah, let's talk about just that side. Who quietly have sort of all of a sudden moved themselves to the top of the table and it sort of feels like they've just snuck in there. Leading scorers now in the competition. It's for Pep. Guardiola It's the 12th time in the Premier League that Manchester City have scored six or more game goals in a game, thanks to that six. One victory over Bournemouth, who we've mentioned is struggling. Only Alex Ferguson with 14 and Arsenal venue with 13 have taken charge of more games in which side that they've managed to score six or more. And it feels like that's going to be a record that Pep might break at some point this season, let alone anything else. Fellow strugglers down there, burnley, we spoke about them. One side that some people were tipping maybe to fall into the relegation battle was Crystal Palace, but great. Two nil victory for the Eagles and ten of their last 15 Premier League points this season have come away from Selhurst Park, which I find amazing, like they've been able to go on the road from and pick up three wins a draw and only two defeats. Only Tottenham and Manchester City having earned more away points in the competition so far this season than Roy Hodgson's Eagles. We'll come back to Everton in a little while because they're the subject of this week's Pauline Quirk quiz. Oh, yeah, I've got you on tenderhooks already. You're now wondering what direction this is going in.
Let's just have a look at Manchester United. Obviously, I mean, lot of pressure rolling around from this time last week we were talking about, is this the end of ten? Hag, is he looking at the door? Well, victory against Fulham. It came late, obviously. 9th time that Manchester United have won a Premier League game. One nil thanks to a goal scored in the nintieth minute or later. Only team to have done it. More than that, if you haven't looked at the facts yet, evil, want to guess that?
[00:21:53] Speaker C: Is it by any chance Liverpool?
[00:21:55] Speaker A: It is Liverpool. Well read off the sheet, well done.
It feels like one of those teams that would do that. Obviously Arsenal as well had their struggles this weekend. A good victory for Newcastle United, that one, but the fact I wanted to pull out of this one. There's been a lot of discussion this weekend about refereeing across the league, about VAR and all sorts of things like this.
It was quite interesting that Newcastle had three players cautioned in the space of three minutes for Descent. Feels like very much back to the start of the season where there was this clamp down on it. But Fabian Char, Sean Longstaff and Anthony Gordon meant Newcastle became the first team to have free players booked for dissent or arguing in the first half of a Premier League game since Leicester against Stoke in December 2016.
Again, there's a lot of debate point around officiating at the moment. This is the thing we were told at the start of the season, if they showed, if players showed descent, they were going to be finding themselves in the book. Be interesting to see how that one rolls as the season goes along.
Last two ones. Just before we move into the Everton fact for you guys, brentford obviously picking up that victory against West Ham. West Ham have lost all five of their Premier League games against Brentford, the most they've lost against an opponent in the competition since the Bees were promoted to the Premier League. And Nottingham forest as well. Good victory for them against Aston Villa. I think a lot of people, it's kind of one of those games that in amongst all the chaos this weekend, kind of slid under the radar, but again, Forest are pretty decent at home. Have only lost two of their last 20 home games in the Premier League since the start of October 2022. Only Manchester City and Liverpool have lost fewer home matches in the competition. That's the sort of form that pulls them away from the relegation fight and keeps them with hopes of staying in the top flight. Right then. Everton versus Brighton. One one. This game was the main fact we've got for you. Brighton had nearly 80% possession against them, but recorded just seven shots. But that's not the fact we want to go into because it's time for this week's Pauline Quirk quiz.
The equalizer for Brighton came courtesy of Ashley Young's own goal. But at least Ashley Young didn't register another unwanted record in this game.
He's four fouls away from becoming the 13th player in recorded Premier League history to register 450 or more fouls conced in the competition.
So today's Pauline Quirk quiz in our now traditional penalty shootout format is I want you to name the twelve players who have broken through the 450 foul mark in recorded Premier League history. Now, just to make clear why I'm saying the word recorded Premier League history, we have this data at opta back to the three four season. So your early year Premier League ardmen Yavini Joneses, Yoroy Keens, your Peter fears, they don't appear in this list.
So, yeah, we're looking for the twelve players who have broken through the 450 fouls conceded mark in recorded Premier League history.
We record this podcast on video, you don't get to see this bit, it's purely for us. I noticed some eye rolls, some throwing back of the head from both Ali and Dave as they had to think about some of the names that will come up here. Any questions? Guys, can you get out of recording this podcast?
Think logically, that's all I'll say on that front, think logically, some of them will come to you quite easily. I'm going to give the guys a good little bit of a break here to come up with their answers and we'll be back after this break.
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Welcome back to The Day Today, where we're getting ready for this week's Pooling Quirk quiz. Just to remind you at home of the question, ashley Young scored a known goal for Everton against Brighton this weekend, but he avoided another unwanted record. He's four fouls away from becoming the 13th player in recorded Premier League history to register 450 fouls or more in the competition. I have asked Dave and Ali to name the twelve players who have broken through the 450 foul mark, including one player who is bang on 450 fouls. So that's a good little fact to have. Obviously, normally at this moment where Matt and I, we ask the guests who would like to be on the take the first spot kick. The issue is today both we have two guests, so I have a coin in my hand here. Heads for Ali, tails for Dave. We're going to flip it live. This is how radio works. You can hear it go down. It's heads.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: Was that me?
[00:27:36] Speaker A: I think that's Ali going first for heads, so Ali will be taking the first spot. Kit, good luck.
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[email protected] your answers. Dave and Ali, get ready to go. Good luck, both of you. Apologies for this one, bit of a tricky teaser. But hey, if Matt's off, we do the fun ones. Ali, who are you going with your first spot kick then?
[00:28:05] Speaker B: Gareth Barry.
[00:28:07] Speaker A: Gareth Barry is right, a pretty obvious one. We did suggest maybe going for longevity would be the way, but Gareth Barry 834 fouls he conceded across his Premier League career. Second on the list all time in recorded history. The most fouls, Dave, in the going.
[00:28:32] Speaker C: Along similar lines of longevity. And also, I feel appropriately, given this is a penalty shootout format, I will go with James Milner.
[00:28:40] Speaker A: James Milner, of course, is correct. The highest current active player on the list, 559 fouls he has conceded across his Premier League career. That actually puts him in need to jump check 1236 on the list all time.
Ali, back to you. One one after the first round of spot kicks.
[00:29:04] Speaker B: Lee Catamol.
[00:29:07] Speaker A: Lee Catamol is the 450 foul man, just breaking into this barrier as the 12th man on this list, the last possible choice you could have had. Lee Cassimo 450 fouls. That is the record that Ashley Young, if he concedes another five fouls will overtake.
Right then, Dave, we're free for free. So far as. A duo. What you got next, that doesn't really.
[00:29:35] Speaker C: Bode well because those are the only three I had where I was fairly sure they were on the list. I'm now already in guessing territory.
So in the interest that given his position and given how long he played, still think this is pretty risky, given who he played for, but I'm going to say Fernandinho.
[00:29:53] Speaker A: Fernandino.
I'm afraid to say it's a missed spot kick, 359 fouls he had done throughout the course of his Premier League career.
[00:30:11] Speaker C: I should just say it was actually, well, more, but just they didn't really give that many.
[00:30:17] Speaker A: This is the issue of recorded history, as ever.
So, Ali, you're two, one in front. Chance to extend your advantage with this one, mark Noble.
Mark Noble, I think I've got some bad news for you. I do not believe he is not in my list.
He is a 400 man. He is 50 shy of breaking that record. So Mark Noble is a miss. 29th on the list. Mark noble all time. So, Dave, you're back in the game here.
[00:30:53] Speaker C: I'm going to go back to the longevity argument and again, there's a lot of reasons why this man wouldn't be on the list, but the one I'm banking on is he plays a lot of games and so surely he accumulated quite a lot. I'm going to say frank Lampard.
[00:31:09] Speaker A: Frank Lampard.
It's another miss, I'm afraid to say 266. I think the issue again for him is probably if we have all time, he probably is. But that recorded history thing just doesn't help, unfortunately there but yeah, well, down on the list, Frank Lampard unlucky. So, Ali, this is where it's again, the recorded history just takes this little edge on it here. We have still got nine names available out of our top twelve. We're looking for still two, one in front.
[00:31:46] Speaker B: I had a name, I'm going to go with it. That I was going to say, and it sounds like I've just come up with this because Dave said Frank Lampard. I was going to go for Steven Gerard and I was put off by how few fouls Lampard made, but I think it's the best of my options on my list, so I'm going to stick with it and go Stephen Gerrard.
[00:32:07] Speaker A: So Stephen Gerard, he has more fouls conceded than Frank Lampard, but he is well off. 316 fouls conceded in his career. So another miss for Stephen Gerard there.
[00:32:25] Speaker C: That's why you don't play Lampard and Gerard together.
[00:32:29] Speaker A: Clean cut guys. Clean cut guys. Right then, Dave, a chance to equalize this up. What a great time this would be to bang in an equalizer here.
[00:32:38] Speaker C: This is so frustrating because you said there's still nine names and I bet they're all incredibly obvious, but none of them are coming to mind.
All right, I will purely because it would be glorious if this is right, given we've just gone Lampard and Gerard I'm going to say Michael Carrick.
[00:32:58] Speaker A: Michael Carrick is not a right answer.
211 in recorded history in the Premier League. So, yeah, well down on the list, allies could win it here.
We are kind of into sudden death here. Ali is two, one in front. So a correct finish here and Ali would take away this week's Pauline Quirk Quiz trophy in inverted commas.
[00:33:35] Speaker B: I'm gonna I don't know if he go I've got two names that I'm tossing up between I go for the player who played more games, phil Neville.
[00:33:47] Speaker A: Phil Neville, I assume played more games.
[00:33:50] Speaker B: Than the other one I've got Phil.
[00:33:53] Speaker A: Neville is an incorrect answer, but we are getting closer into the ballpark here.
379 fouls in the Premier League recorded history for Phil Neville.
[00:34:06] Speaker B: Probably.
[00:34:07] Speaker A: Again, a couple of fouls, a lot of fouls probably in non recorded history, so probably would be much higher up there.
Dave, you need this, a chance to equalize and force this into Southern death as it isn't already felt like Southern death for the last we have nine names in the top twelve still to.
[00:34:28] Speaker C: Get a part of me really wants to miss this because I want this to be over.
So that'll be my excuse if it's wrong because again, there's a lot of reasons to think it is, but just so few names are coming up. I've got the feeling most of this list is either quite obscure players or players who play for teams lower down the table, but none of them are coming to mind. So I'm going to say Angolo cante in golo Kante.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: I can tell you right now that's incorrect. Ali has won the quiz. I'm just trying to find Ingolo on the list. Ingolo, 280 fouls, 104th on the list, two below Germaine Genus. So congratulations, Ali.
Right, I'm going to do this in reverse order because I feel like you're going to kick yourself with some of these names. Literally, it's fouls.
459.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: Bobby Zamora wouldn't have got that in a million years.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: Which also makes me think you wouldn't have got the player who conceded the most fouls in the Premier League in recorded history at 927, kevin Davis.
[00:35:36] Speaker B: Kevin Davis, he was the one I was tossing it up between with Phil Neville, top of the bloody list.
[00:35:45] Speaker C: As soon as you said Bobby's More, I was like, oh, a striker. And then Kevin Davis immediately was like, oh, no, kevin Davis conceded so many fouls.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: I just want to bring you this bit of information. If we were ever to do fouls one in the Premier League in recorded history, kevin Davis is 2nd 728, behind only Wilfred Zaha.
Again, fascinating all of a sudden if one of you come up with Kevin Davis because there's another name in this list that I don't think you're going to enjoy, let's roll our way back down. 475 fouls.
Former Everton and Arsenal midfielder.
Now a manager of Arsenal, mikhail Arteta. 475.
[00:36:30] Speaker C: No wonder he hates referees so much.
[00:36:32] Speaker A: Apart from that, ten more 485 on the list. Former Bolton and West Ham midfielder Kevin Nolan.
Just above that 488. Similar ilk to Bobby Zamor in that he was a former West Ham striker. Carlton Cole, head of that 506 fouls, conceded former Everton and Manchester United striker Wayne Rooney.
Dimilee. Okay, we then obviously had James Milner at 559 563.
Peter Crouch. Again, you go down the sort of striker line and you start thinking about them. Right, your next two two Everton. Former Everton midfielders with 575 fouls is Tim Cahill. And at 588, Marijuan Felney.
[00:37:33] Speaker C: Yeah, of course.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: And that rolls out your top. Any other names you'd want in A? Joey Barton nearly got in there. 436 for Joey Barton. As you say when you start thinking about strikers like Yakubu, 417. Shane Long, 410. Yeah, there you go.
[00:37:49] Speaker C: I was only thinking of midfielders because I just thought, surely the vast majority of free kicks are given in midfield, so midfielders tend to be the ones who commit the most fouls. But didn't really occur to me to think of strikers.
[00:38:00] Speaker A: Think of strikers that get into tussles with defenders, shirt pulls, all sorts like that. It all racks up.
[00:38:07] Speaker C: Apart from Kevin Davis, none of those names were like, oh, God, of course, most of those I wouldn't have thought of in a million years. So I don't really mind.
[00:38:15] Speaker A: Well, Ali, you take the victory home with you. That's the most important thing today.
You've done everybody proud. Dave, that's back to back defeats for you in the quiz. I just wanted to point out what I'm here for. Have you taken on my role? This is great.
More importantly, you can read Ali and Dave's great writing all the time over on Optor Analyst. We're truly privileged to have the guys writing on our great site and make sure you do enjoy all of their great work. Ali, you're also on A, if people want to see you dissect Tottenham a little bit more today. You're off on another podcast today, aren't you?
[00:38:52] Speaker B: I am, yeah. An echo of Glory podcast. Probably be out later today if anyone wants more on Tottenham. But maybe that's not for everyone.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: Maybe that's not the medicine everybody wants. But yeah, catch our guys. Great
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